A new book claims that Vatican astronomers are looking for extraterrestrials. And they are using LUCIFER to do it. Although it shares the same name as Christianity’s fallen angel and the personification of evil, LUCIFER is an instrument attached to a telescope.
As Popular Science explains, LUCIFER is an acronym for the instruments lengthy title, “Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research.” This instrument is attached to the University of Arizona’s Large Binocular Telescope (LBT) located on Mt. Graham in south eastern Arizona. The Vatican-owned Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) is right next door.
According to EcumenicalNews.com, authors of a new book assert that Vatican astronomers are using both the VATT and the LBT’s LUCIFER instrument to watch for an alien savior. Tom Horn and Chris Putnam, authors of Exo-Vaticana: Petrus Romanus, Project LUCIFER, and the Vatican’s astonishing plan for the arrival of an alien savior, visited with the Jesuit astronomers at the VATT, including Guy Consolmagno.
The authors claim that Consolmagno revealed to them documents showing that the Vatican believes “that we are soon to be visited by an alien savior from another world.”
The authors claim they will back up their assertions with documented sources when their book is released on April 15.
Guy Consolmagno speaks regularly about science and religion. In a 2010 interview, he told The Guardian, “Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has – has a soul.” He made headlines because of this interview, in which he said he would offer to baptize an extraterrestrial being if one requested.
Consolmagno has also stated that the Pope and the Vatican are keen on science, and they are kept up-to-date on the latest scientific developments by the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.
That acronym is a real stretch. That just tells me they really wanted to name the thing LUCIFER more than anything. LOL
Also, are you sure the Vatican is looking for aliens? Just wondering, with a name like LUCIFER.
Br. Guy has denied that he ever said that the Vatican is looking for extra-terrestrial life.
Horn and Putnam ought to be ashamed. They are trying to profit off of unwarranted anti-Catholic paranoia. As J. D. Leavitt has already made clear (“Heretically Orthodox,” 2013), the Vatican has publicly addressed the issue of the possibility of extraterrestrials in recent years. Their statement on the matter remains that their existence would not be theologically threatening, that they might not necessarily have a fallen nature in need of salvation, and that any with a fallen nature would be able to find salvation in Jesus Christ.
LOL offers to baptise an Alien..
I think they are a bit smarter than to fall into that Religion Trap that has kept us dumb for the last 5000 years.. We are just catching up to where we used to be..
LUCIFER was named by the russian company that designed and built it. Im sure the Vatican was not to pleased with the name,, and to my knowledge they do not call it that.
so i guess the world isn’t done being @@#$#!ed by the Vatican,, throughout history thieve use world beliefs to manipulate and distort the truth to control the mass,, if this wasn’t true,, then why do they keep all the information they have hidden and locked up , so the public cant know truth , only there interpretation and limited literature thieve compiled for us ,picking and choosing what to leave in and to leave out , since Jesus when they founded and united the catholic church , they took truth , scripture and manipulated it for political and economic gain , paving the way for the time when the world was at another turning point to mislead and f**k the world off again , so the telescope is named rite ,,,
the video is marked PRIVATE on youtube
The Vatican eats dinner with demons so this is no surprise. The AntiChrist will rise from the Catholic church and his puppets are just paving the way. Blind Bats!
De-bunked to some degree. Yes, the Vatican is looking for ET as they have for thousands of years. However, the LUCIFER telescope was as stretch. A far stretch. Internet at its finest.
I Guess the Vatican are not Christians. Jesus Christ is the savior!!!!!!!!. So Catholics are looking for another savior Wow
they are looking for the one.. the anti christ.. the one that will bring destruction upon earth.. heck they are not searching.. they are preparing for his return.. jesus not the son of God but his prophet.. will bring us human together under one banner.. wait and see.. the banner of one true God..
The Vatican did not name a telescope Lucifer. The Vatican Observatory shares space (no pun intended) with other organizations and groups. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment nor can it give official names or nicknames to things it does not own. Another group installed a telescope it nicknamed Lucifer.
Its a telescope built by the Max Planck Institute for extraterrestrial physics and according to their website it stands for LBT Near Infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research. It is noted on the website that its official abbreviation has been changed to LUCI.
As the Vatican Observatory Official Website explains:
One of the stake holders in the MGIO is a group of European institutes who built an infrared camera and spectroscope, and named it “Lucifer”. So what happened? First, somebody reported that an instrument called “Lucifer” was installed on Mt Graham. Then somebody remarked that Mt Graham also hosts the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope, and that it is somewhat amusing that Mt Graham has both Vatican and Lucifer. Then the information somehow degraded and the slur was born: Vatican astronomers are supposedly friends with Lucifer…
It was not built or named by the Vatican Observatory.
The secretive group within the Jesuits, who are satanists, control this telescope and they also control the current Pope. The current Pope is the first Jesuit (the not too distant future “little Beast” of Revelation). They are looking for the coming “alien invasion” which the satanists will use to turn people away from Christ. They will pretend that “these are our Gods,” i.e. that they planted us here eons ago and now they’ve come back for us. The problem with that is, while there probably is alien life on other planets, this little corner of the universe is a LONG way from anywhere, and besides, the “aliens” showing up will be demonic-alien hybrids. Its been done before in Genesis when the fallen watchers the Nephilim, took human women to be their wives and they procreated somehow (probably DNA lab work but who knows) and the children they had were physical giants. God was taken about so he told Enoch to tell the fallen watchers and their children that they would be banned from Heaven for eternity. The spirits of the children became the demons who’s souls inhabit the earth.
Should be interesting. Turn to Jesus Christ and put away all false gods, including that Mercedes in your garage.
Joe Reed, nice try. Could it be, hmmm, s-a-t-a-n??? Hmmmm?
Malachy, you are a psycho
There is plenty of info to back Malachy’s statements. Calling him a psycho without a reason is a weak response and is also just being mean. Evil can be found anywhere…including in religions.
It’s all in the book of Revelations, trumpets will sound. Do you have Faith in the one that gave his life for us All!
Half Mumbo-Jumbo….. One Quarter Mambie-Jahambie-Voodooo-Hexing Riff-Raff…….and Maybe the rest is fact…..otherwise they wouldn’t have pissed on a tire way out in the middle of Arizona in the 1st place…….I think they Are running out of fools AND time, Sooo the Basement dwelling Vaticanite Satan loving Jesuits need to feed their beast
I just watched a program about the LUCIFER mechanism attached to the telescope. The Vatican is indeed looking for extraterrestrials.
That isn’t the only thing they are using Lucifer for HIYOO lol
Jason, doesn’t it bother you at all that the claims of the book you are quoting are complete lies? Don’t you think it might be important to check the allegations and include that the claims appear to be a hoax? Look at this sight: http://vaticanobservatory.org/vo-news/news-archive/98-news-archive/vatican-lucifer/515-vatican-lucifer The Vatican has nothing to do with the Lucifer infrared camera and spectroscope. It was built by a group of European institutes, and has nothing to do with the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. The Vatican Observatory is a member of the Mount Graham International Observatory (MGIO) consortium, together with a number of other institutions from Europe and the USA. The MGIO comprises a large number of stake holders, most of whom have nothing to do with the Vatican Observatory or its telescope.
It’s possible the Vatican keeping up with PlanetX, which has been discussed in revelations as the coming of the end of the world. Its’s interesting as our G-V-M-T hides many things and would have good reason in this case.
Take a look here to know more about it.
Aliens ? Oh u mean the fallen angels oh yes they are coming n soon I am one of TWO n yes we are here prepare for our ARRIVAL
There are no such things as aliens, they are demons. Satan is the prince of the air, how better to mock God’s creation than by making it look like there are other beings out there who interact with us. God does have other worlds, but they are not tainted with sin as they resisted Satan, they are not allowed to interact with us, we are the example of what sin can do when it is allowed to grow, and having been given free will, our planet would corrupt them. They are allowed to watch us and see that God is just, loving and was right in casting Satan and his followers out of Heaven.
Dana, you make a lot of interesting statements with no verification. What evidence do you have of these other inhabited worlds God has. Where do you get the idea God has them watching us to learn from our disobedience. That’s not good science. Unless you can support your claims with reliable evidence you can’t expect to be taken seriously.
I encourage everyone to check out this : https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/axial-tilt-game-over/
as it seems to postulate (in this and other posts on the blog) that the Vatican is actually looking for the incoming Nibiru in approximately 2025.
Dana, you are spot on!
John, are you talking about the same sience that is working so hard to hide the Truth?
Anything for a buck.
Dana i totally agree with ur statement…..the trouble is people are blind they are unable to see the truth….your asking for proof? the proof is all around u,all u have to do is open ur eyes and you will see it. The truth is in the revelation, and all around u. what better proof then the word of god, the pair of eyes and the brain that he has given to u, so that u can see for yourself and understand and make sense of it in that brain of yours…. unfortunately people are so blind to the truth and brainwashed, by the media, re written history books, science ‘theories’,etc etc that they are unable to comprehend the truth.. God isn’t inside you, however god is everywhere, closer to you then u can imagine…u are not god, god is who created us, created every living thing on this planet, god created the universe, god created satan….who is satan? was an angel, when he was created, disobeyed gods command and was cast out of heaven… Satan knows his fate, he knows hes going to the pits of hell, and he doesnt want to go alone, he wants to take asmany of us as he can with him……Satan has many offsprings on earth, you probably walk past 100s of them everyday, they look no different to us, they walk, talk etc exactly as we do… they dont walk around with satan tatooed on thier forehead…..they are born into this world, just like you and i, they grew up here, just like you and i…they attended school, just like you and i…….satan inhabits a person, has intercourse with humans, for example that couple is having a baby, everything is normal they love eachother, they planned to have this baby…..however satan helped impregnate….that couple has no idea. According to them that baby is theirs…and ofcourse its theirs they made it but satan helped, so technically its satans offspring… now that child will grow up with the love of his parents, it will het to a crtain age where he/she can make decisions for itself and right there…..is when satan takes charge with his whispers…to lead that child astray…. most of u wont understand, i dont expect u to as i said earlier, humans have been brainwashed by media etc etc….. but i know there are people out there from all different faiths and cultures that know exactly what i mean……THE CHOICE IS YOURS PEOPLE…god given you a free will, again the choice is yours….peace
As I understand this, the LBT and its associated instruments at the Mt Graham Observatory were not commissioned by the Vatican, nor even used by Vatican researchers. The so-called ‘Lucifer’ connection is a tenuous stretch too, as the Vatican Researchers specifically use the VATT, a completely different telescope on the Mt Graham site (Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope).
As far as the ‘Lucifer’ Instrument is concerned (Acronym LUCI comprising two multi-object and long-slit infrared spectrographs plus imagers), it appears that it is used specifically on the LBT and not the VATT.
The Vatican occupy and use the 1.8 meter Alice P. Lennon Telescope at the Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility (VATT) at Mt Graham.
Knowing the above does show that the Vatican – ‘Lucifer’ connection as a popularised Myth – BUT it does not make any less sinister, knowing that the Vatican has had such an interest in things Extra-Terrestrial – and has done for a very long time. Although the Vatican have only been at the Mt Graham site since it was commissioned in 1993 the interest developed from the Vaticans early studies in Astronomy (1580 when the Gregorian Calendar was created).
While on the subject, VATT isn’t the only Vatican Observatory (as many will know) but they also have the VORG (Vatican Observatory Research Group) at Castel Gandolfo, directed by Brother Guy Consolmagno, an American Jesuit
Jay, I thought your response was one of the rare intelligent ones, until you opined that it’s “sinister” that the Vatican is interested in “things Extra-Terrestrial” …. that’s rather a bit paranoid coming from someone who appears to have an interest in “things Extra-Terrestrial” himself.
It’s natural that people who believe that God created the universe would want to study the universe He created. What would be “sinister” would be engaging in any means to discourage such study.
In fact, the secular humanist/atheist claim is that religion held back science, which is terribly sinister, in that it invites persecution of theists. It’s also incredibly stupid, since if it’s true, you’d have to explain how humanity suddenly became so enlightened that it only burst forth onto the science scene once a new race of men evolved either without the religion gene, or without the fear of being openly atheist gene. That’s only a slight stretch — the claim that religion hampered science simply has no supporting arguments that make any sense. Its proponents would have you believe that interest in science appeared out of nowhere after eons of control by religion, but that would ignore the historical, documented facts, of which there are a plethora.
Ah, it seems secular humanist/atheists are the ones acting to hamper both science and the study of history. Back in the USSR indeed.
Sorry peeps, this is all a crock. Space doesn’t exist as we know it. Aliens don’t exist.
The earth is flat and thermal imaging conclusively proves it 100%. It’s undeniable, and there is nothing NASA, the governments, and the phony fraudulent Vatican can do about it.
It really is quite funny watching these people squirm when the slightest hint of thermal imaging comes up to debunk their garbage.
If space didn’t exist why would the Russian lie about it they hate the states and they have a space program
Amanda those people aren’t squirming, they are merely struggling to keep a straight face. So thermal imaging proves the Earth is flat? Where can I view this study?
I understand exrtradorninary claims require extraordinary proof, DANA, your the fool to not see the common sense in parallel dimensions which is mathematically sound and holds to all our scientifically known costructs of physics. So if your in need of science to validate the super-natural, they have!! Now go to the mathematicians that are advancing string theory and tell them they have no proof of an entire universe of things you can’t see! He’ll hand you an equation you’ll never understand. I guess you can spend eternity demanding answers from the equation! Or, have FAITH, the belief in that which u cannot see, feel,touch, taste, or hear.
We don’t need to look for other worlds because they have found us long ago. Earth has been under the jurisdiction of a galactic community for 10,000 years. Our planet was seeded with many species, including many humanoid species but the most recent seeding was 12,000 years ago. The beings have started open contact with a small amount of humans and they are obviously very benevolent. Once humans take control of Earth and the elite lose all of their power, the ETs will help us advance our technology and the quality of life on the planet. They are as powerful as they are friendly and cannot be thwarted. Earth’s enemies are the monsters that live on the planet and want to make our slavery ever more severe.
Still waiting for all those amazing documented sources….
The Church of Rome, later to become the Roman Catholic Church/Vatican was created around the 2nd century to counter and co-opt true Christianity with pagan symbols & traditions, and, among other things, to take Jerusalem for the Pope. They have never really represented the true Christian Church and faith as expressed in the New Testament. To postulate that they are allied with fallen angels, idolatries and blasphemies is no great stretch, and although I don’t believe any of it, it’s a great story, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying not much of anything.
You should know that Lucifer, aka Samael, aka Saklas, aka the demiurge, was one of, if not the oldest Archon, and was partly responsible for the creation of the universe. He is not a person. At least someone is well read. Just not anyone on this forum. Know what you are talking about befor you bash it. The name comes from the ancient Gnostics who were some of the earliest rationalists, not simpletons. The Vatican and the scientists involved should be applauded for working together to search for truth.
Ken Taylor where did you read that one. Lucifer was involved in creation. I don’t think so. Either the bible is the truth or we have none. Everybody else is guessing. I do believe there will be as Paul wrote about in the letter to the Thessalonians that one will come with all signs and lying wonders in so much it would deceive the very elect. God will be the one to expose the anti Christ. Here’s the clue that he the anti Christ is phony. Hw shows up first doing tricks and good ones at that to deceive the people. He does not show up Like Jesus will on horses and thousands of saints in the clouds . It will be so big the whole world will see it . Just remember first the liar then the KING
How about open contact with et, (despite the lies of nasa and seti)? What about the 20,000 pages of data given us by et? Open http://www.theyfly,com and read The Pleiadian Mission by Randolph Winters after he spent 3 months with Meier in Switzerland, you’ll be light years ahead of the rest of the field.
To all my brothers and sisters:
Maybe instead of debating, arguing and disrespecting one another….why not focus on encouraging one another, because this is what God Loving Father in Heaven wants from all of us.
Now, about the vatican. Check their new hall that looks like a snake and the kind of throne that I found very “UNGODLY”. And for pope francis to sit on a giant chair that looks crazy weird and NOT normal for a pope to use…..please watch carefully and observe wisely. WE THE PEOPLE OF GOD should know what is right and wrong… and right now, the vatican has been doing many questionable decisions, and why the vatican allowed themselves to join this whatever organization you wanna call it and has been spending so much money forlucifer, ect.ect…needs CLEAR and CLEAN answers because there are millions and millions of families in HUNGER, homeless, jobless and what about the hardworking people giving their money for vatican….does the pope and his member do really care???
If Vatican is really for God, why they accepted the name lucifer? REALLY?
This alone showed that the vatican is NOT smart enough to know what is WRONG and they continue to be blind.
Well, it is in Revelation if you read it. Understand well what revelation is all about and vatican is now showing its TRUE colors by doing what is WRONG and UNGODLY. Just like what Denver has been doing, using a blue horse with devil like red eyes!
The Revelation is now becoming a REALITY and brothers and sisters….more to come and be prepared.
Watch documentaries such as: Secret Underground cities & tunnels, Agenda 21, Military/Police Abuse of Authority and Power, American Standoff, Revelation Dawn of Government, Giant Chemtrails (poisoning the air!), Before the Flood (government systems protecting giant greedy corporations!), and the coming of Nibiru Planet (it is coming and watch the sky all the time…chemtrails are becoming weird!). And these are just few of MANY that every families NEED TO WATCH. Like God said: “My people are destroyed from the LACK of knowledge.”
Let us use our eyes and observe, not use our mouth and judge others. Be PREPARED instead of being afraid. Whether we like it or not….GOD’s second coming is soon and for those who are blind NOT to know who TRUE GOD IS and for many leaders in the world including the vatican who think, believe and act like they are the best and they know what is best …..BETTER wake up now and REPENT while it not yet too late.
God ha shown me so many miracles and it happens EVERYDAY to those who fully TRUST and BELIEVE IN GOD.
And btw, : )
UFO stands for “Unidentified Flying Objects”…….not extra terrestials or aliens.
UFO could be many of military’s “special projects” that intend to SCARE or CONFUSE the humanity….only GOD KNOWS what NASA is really doing.
Taxpayers hard earned money has been wasted and giving away like HALLOWEEN CANDIES and this needs to be STOPPED now. Hardworking taxpayers are the ONLY reason America and other developed countries are doing well….it is NOT the politicians, queen elizabeth or any kings or prince, prime ministers or leaders who LOVE war. For Kim Jong Un, Presidetn Trump, Duterte from Philippines and other leaders in the world…..GOD has chosen you to be leaders of your countries as and as Public Servants…please SAVE and PROTECT your country and its people and PLEASE Don’t do the same MISTAKES that happened in world war I and II. Greed of Power and Money are fruit of all evil.
All government offices must put God first in things they say and do….and use PRAYER as their opening EVERYDAY.
God bless us All, God Bless America and God Bless the whole world and our leaders.
Rumor has it that the telescope is looking for a Rogue Planet named Nibiru or Planet X. The Hopi native americans call it the Destroyer or the Red Kachina. Sumerians called it Nibiru. I think the bible refers to it as Wormwood. Some say it passed us 50 yrs ago and is coming back around from the west. Some say its only just coming in and will show up coming from under us and pass us by. Those in the south side of the planet are supposed to be able to see it. It is said to pass us at 14 million miles away but I’m not sure about its return trip. Supposedly they want to track it so when it gets close they can move underground to wait out its passing leaving the rest of us belly up to it.
I have my own opinions related to this.
Associating the Marian apparitions and the ministry of Jesus Christ with the varying phenomena observed in the skies and around the world including alien-extraterrestrial encounters, as well as how do we distinguish the angels of the “kingdom” from demons, from a trusted scientist’s point of view.
From: Extraterrestrial Christianity and the Second Coming. Copyright © 2018 by Timothy R. Minor, Sr.
New insights on the origins and practice of the Christian religion, which differ from traditional norms, are presented herein. These are based on a critical, comprehensive examination of the phenomenon presented in the New Testament relative to Jesus Christ of Nazareth, as well as the more recent Marian and Marian-like apparitions and the phenomenon of alien abductions and encounters. Thrilling new conclusions are presented in conjunction with how we should expect the return of a new Jesus Christ to happen on this earth, in these more modern times.
About the author
The author was a respected, upper echelon, electronics and radio communications, technical specialist for a major aerospace and defense contractor during the 1980s, when he received a telepathic voice message from a divine entity in 1985. This led him to continuing investigations of the underlying principles of the Christian religion, along with studying the phenomenon of the Marian and Marian-like apparitions and that of alien-extraterrestrial encounters. This developed into a new understanding of what actually transpired with Jesus Christ of Nazareth and how we might anticipate modern day events relative to a new Jesus Christ on earth today.
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It is NO COINCIDENCE that LUCIFER telescope happened to pop up right on the same mount where the Vatican observatory is. Of any place in the entire world that observatory could be placed…it just HAPPENED to be placed “right next door” to the Vatican observatory where they share resources? Don’t let sensitive types gloss over the facts.
2 Corinthians 4:4 tells us why people are blind on very many Bible teachings.
My friend told me tonight that the Pope had a telescope in Texas, the Lucifer, that showed demons entering and leaving our atmosphere. I just laughed and laughed. I believe in demons. I don’t believe that there is a magic doorway for them to come to earth.