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Alien spacecraft described by Bob Lazar. (Credit: Open Minds Production)

Update on Area 51 whistleblower Bob Lazar

Bob Lazar

Bob Lazar

Bob Lazar is best known as the whistleblower that outed Area 51 and its extraterrestrial secrets. He claims to have been an employee there tasked with back engineering alien technology. In a recent email from his company, apparently he is now a science and technology consultant to Raytheon, and his company has contracts with the military.

In 1989, KLAS investigative reporter George Knapp conducted an interview that forever changed UFO mythology. This is when he first interviewed Bob Lazar live for his Las Vegas viewers. Lazar claimed to have worked in a secret underground lab called S4, 8 miles south of the main Area 51 base. Here he says there were several disc-shaped craft that looked as though they had been damaged. He says he was told they were extraterrestrial, and he noted that they appeared to be built for pilots that were small and humanoid.

He started telling friends about his work at the base, and even told them where and when they could view test flights. He and his friends were then busted and he was fired. So the story goes. The Air Force denies his claims. However, upon investigation, Knapp found that another top secret facility, Los Alamos National Laboratories (LANL) in New Mexico, had Lazar listed in their phone book. Lazar said he had worked there, but LANL denied that claim.

However, other claims by Lazar did not pan out. He said he received degrees from the California Institute of Technology and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, neither of which can be confirmed.

For a large part of the 90s Lazar’s claims made big news, and became the bedrock for claims of ET technology being horded by the United States government. This has lead to Area 51 getting the legendary status it currently enjoys, although at the same time it remains a top secret facility.


Alien spacecraft described by Bob Lazar. (Credit: Open Minds Production)

Lazar left the UFO limelight, and has not spoken on the topic for many years. He started a scientific equipment and supply store called United Nuclear. I contacted them to find out if Lazar would be interested in speaking about his experiences, as next year will be the 25th anniversary of his interviewed with Knapp. I was told:

Sorry, Mr. Lazar no longer involves himself in matters related to the topic of UFOs.

He hasn’t followed the topic in about 10 years and does not lecture on anything other than basic science & energy technologies.

His companies are involved in several Military contracts and he is a science & technology consultant to Raytheon weapon systems.

For these reasons he avoids ‘rocking the boat’ and generally keeps his distance from the topic.

I found the response rather interesting, as I am sure you will as well. The only reference to Area 51 I found on the United Nuclear website is this Area 51 style “Restricted Area” aluminum sign. I might pick one up. It is a fun conversation piece considering the source.

United Nuclear restricted area sign

United Nuclear restricted area sign. (Credit: United Nuclear)

For more about the history of how the public found out about Area 51 read our post on it here.

About Alejandro Rojas

Alejandro Rojas is a radio host for Open Minds Radio, editor and contributing writer for Open Minds magazine as well as OpenMinds.tv. For several years Alejandro was the official spokesperson for the Mutual UFO Network as the Director of Public Education. As a UFO/Paranormal researcher and journalist, Alejandro has spent many hours in the field investigating phenomena up close and personal. Alejandro has been interviewed by media organizations around the world, including the largest cable and network news agencies with several appearances on Coast to Coast AM.


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    Feels like he was either scared off the subject and/or paid to leave the subject. It simply seems too cool to not be real. The lack of proof from his past academic career is very disturbing. You would think he could have kept his diploma as proof…

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    The day Obama provides his college records is the day I’ll worry about Lazar’s college records.

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    Still.. I find it interesting that he has no proof of schooling…
    This was a staple for skeptics when trying to “debunk” his claims…
    Yet, he is an advisor for Raytheon?
    Something stinks… Again…

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    The President’s college records are public. Are you a ‘birther’ as well?

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    Bob Lazar’s company has contracts with the military? Do they still trust him after blabbing about their biggest secrets? they must be nuts!

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    Luke The Drifter

    Hi Bähb.
    I’m thrilled to hear that. Please direct me to Mr. Obama’s college records.
    You may also want to notify Snopes
    Fact Check
    so they can update their information.
    And does Orly Taitz know about this yet?
    It’s a little puzzling to see the regime doing something they have declared “preposterous”
    but hey, they do lots of preposterous things.
    I really appreciate your help with this. I can’t WAIT to check those records out now that they’re public.
    Thank you.

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    1. Obama has never released his college records. What difference it would make now. His destruction is for the history books,
    2. If his stories were true and the government wanted it kept secret he would have disappeared.
    3. We will never know.

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    He has military projects now ? How did he manage that if he told supposed military secrets even if they deny such secrets ? The whole military community wouldn’t hire this guy or take him on in capacity of being a sub-contractor/contractor. Maybe because of his skills they worked out an agreement that he no longer talks about the subject and in return he gets paid good money ? So much we know and are being told it’s very fishy to me.

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    What's That Smell?

    HEY Bahb share the link I’d love to see Barry’s college records.

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    Good article. One small correction. Related to Lazar’s area 51 demise. He was never fired. That is according to Lazar which is the only account we have. His security clearance was suspended, and the reason given was that his wife was having an affair with her flight instructor. Later Lazar reported that he was invited to come back to work but he turned it down as he couldn’t remember what had happened during some trips to the base. Figuring that it was a risky move Lazar said he was not coming. If true, it confirms that Lazar was being fed and they were not quite finished.

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    Well, It is a quirky thing, was Bob touting disinformation? Was he on the up and up? We will never know. As far as academic records, I doubt if the bursar at a college is going to say anything when an NSA agent comes in and wipes someones academic records from a computer. I know I wouldn’t and it is ridiculous to think that any academic organization would protest as they are funded in one way or another by the government.( student loans and such) So, when people are shocked that the academic records of top secret workers are misplaced, I find that terribly naive. You basically do not want any records of workers on a highly sensitive projects out there. The ideal candidate is to be exceptionally brilliant with no family and no ties, so if they happened to disappear no one would miss them.

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    Luke The Drifter

    It’s funny how a haughty tone isn’t a substitute for evidence in the real world, away from liberal echo chambers.
    But I’ll be perusing those Obama college records pretty soon.

    Yep, aaaaany minute now, Bähb will get back to me.

    You there, Bähb?


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    I rely on the opinion of Dr. Paul A. LaViolette, Ph.D.
    In his book, “Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion” he says
    that when you press Lazar on the details, it’s just not there.
    He’s not telling the truth.

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    He had to think about the year he graduated? He is nowhere to be found in the year book? He couldn’t name any of his professors from Cal Tech or MIT?

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    The birthers here are cute, but, as the factcheck page linked by “Luke The Drifter” clearly shows, Obama’s college records aren’t “sealed.” They are available, as college records normally are, to anyone who has a legal right to access them. In other words, it would be illegal for a college to give his records to the press. No president has ever released their college records.

    Those conspiracy theories started out as ridiculous, then they got sad, now it’s just embarrassing.

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    So if Bob got these degrees from two highly regarded institutions then there must be plenty of evidence like him publishing his several theses, his professors remembering him, his classmates remembering him, his attending conferences, his published papers in scientific or local journals-etc. But the NSA probably killed all those folks, yet allowed Bob to talk all about his secrets..

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    Could find no mention of Lazar or United Nuclear on the Raytheon website. Nor could I find any confirmation of Lazar consulting with Raytheon except for UFO-agenda websites. Is it possible Lazar is back to his old pathological lying?

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    Nobody, I mean nobody throws away their University degree certificate. It should be possible to verify his education. Even another physicist talking to him will be able to tell if he studied physics at university by testing his knowledge and ability.

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    When any american citizen wants to steap back REALLY- and look at all the government” statements/releases”-that later they get”caught or proven wrong”HOW CAN ANYONE POSSIBLY BELIEVE ANY OR ALL POLITICAL STATEMENTS–CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG OPEN OUR OWN EYES. N. SEE THE BIG GOVERNMENTAL PICTURE AND REALLY SEE LIFE AROUND OURSELVES???

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    After reading that he works for the military now, it’s hard not to think that something else could have been going on. I admit that I was taken in by his story at first because I’m a planetary science and Universe fan, but now it doesn’t make any sense and we could have been misled by Agent Bob Lazar.

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    I can’t remember a single professors name and I graduated in 1998, I did keep my diploma though. I can see how he could forget that though, because quite frankly in a class of 800 I wasn’t all that important. I remember one TA but only her first name and that was because I thought she was hot and to be in computer science department at the time she stuck out being 1 of around 10 women.

    I am not saying his story is true, but not being able to remember a single professors name isn’t that big a deal. I could have cared less about any of my professors.

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    UPDATE: Well I’ve always believed Lazar & as of now the element 115 has been acknowledged on the table of elements & Mr. Lazar has his own company called “United Nuclear” which has many government contracts and he is even a paid consultant to Raytheon a MAJOR US military weapons company (lasers, E-bombs etc) so it seem almost impossible that if in fact Lazar lied about what the government was doing that they would actually do business with him as they are doing now.. It’s easy for powers that be to force a school to erase his records, yet when they want him to work for them & actually hire him they already knew his credentials were 100% true.. Lazar went against the grain & lived, saved only by the fact that his mind was too valuable to be snuffed out.

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    I like how the author of this article say’s “However, other claims by Lazar did not pan out. He said he received degrees from the California Institute of Technology and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, neither of which can be confirmed” Cannot be confirmed? if the US government tells you to deny Mr. Lazar ever went to this school or we will have all funding and programs stopped, what would you do?.. As of now Mr. Lazar has a highly successful company called “United Nuclear” and is a paid consultant for Raytheon technology (a MAJOR US Military weapons developer) all because he told the truth. Mr. Lazar is alive & prospering today only for the fact that his mind was too valuable to be snuffed out by a staged suicide or car wreck as in the case of Phil Schneider, who was “suicided” after speaking out about how the US military was working with grey aliens deep within our deserts. There are many things we will never know, but to think we are alone on this planet or in the universe is greatest lie ever told, unless you believe that a God created us (we are an engineered species) what some called God is a geneticist a million years more advanced then the greatest mind of any human… Wake up, we are under the microscope & we are the lab rats for races Millions & billions years ahead of us – our human ego likes to deny this but this is the truty.

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    The facts speak for themselves… Mr. Lazar blew his proverbial whistle and gave us information about tech with nuclear powering drives. I’ve researched his articles on the supposed propulsion device used to power these extra-terrestrial vehicles.
    1. He postulates an “unknown element” having an atomic number of 115 being used for mean of travel.
    Sep. 2013, element 115 is discovered…and out of all the implications we decide to pursue???
    Gravitational energy harnessing. O_o
    2. Out of everyone who came out with evidence of UFO’s, he’s not dead from some random accident. Kind of like what happened to Tony Stark in the desert??? “Your too important to kill so lets give u a task to do.” Hence why he is working for a government contracted company.
    3. For those who are hell bent on doubting someone for a college degree, you really need to look at the advances in human history. One such man spent almost 10 years in college, studying randomness and majoring in law and having a fascination with astronomy. He later postulated that we were not the center of the universe. o_0

    Somethings are hidden best, out in the open.

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    This article gives a very interesting view from a journalistic perspective and also has another more recent link to a story on his shady arrest to obtain “United Nuclear” computer data.

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    You will see “Use of deadly force” signs on many Air Force installations and bases, that is not unusual. I was in the Air Force for 26 years, worked in NORAD air defense radar, worked on the A-10 fighters. Those same signs were around and on the fences that were around the NORAD block house where I was station at Luke AFB at the 26th Air Division/NORAD Region from 1976 thru the first few months of 1980. Plus in 2002 or 2004 scientist discovered the element 115, that Bob Lazar claimed the government was using from UFO’s

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