Comments on: Alien Autopsy Part II: An Alien Body Talks http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/ Presenting Evidence to Open Minds Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:09:59 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mark Center http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Mark Center Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:25:25 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-173 What are we supposed to get from this file Salvo? >>> i think this could be useful http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/logs/FOIALog_FY04.pdf <<< What are we supposed to get from this file Salvo?

>>> i think this could be useful
http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/logs/FOIALog_FY04.pdf <<<

]]> By: philip Mantle http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-103 philip Mantle Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:30:20 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-103 Hi Maurizio, Like I said, it's not just what Spyros has said and provided, it is instead an accumulation of evidence. The icing on the cake and the final nail in coffin was the evidence provided by Spyros. Why don't you leave the article until my book comes out next August (15th anniversary of the AA film) as then there will be a very good reason to publish it and it might help sell a few copies. If I come across any more info I will of course share it. Hi Maurizio,

Like I said, it’s not just what Spyros has said and provided, it is instead an accumulation of evidence. The icing on the cake and the final nail in coffin was the evidence provided by Spyros. Why don’t you leave the article until my book comes out next August (15th anniversary of the AA film) as then there will be a very good reason to publish it and it might help sell a few copies. If I come across any more info I will of course share it.

]]> By: salvo di stefano http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-94 salvo di stefano Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:28:23 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-94 i think this could be useful http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/logs/FOIALog_FY04.pdf i think this could be useful
http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/logs/FOIALog_FY04.pdf

]]> By: maurizio baiata http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-93 maurizio baiata Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:01:25 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-93 Mark, Santilli seems always one-way oriented, money. Read my last comment on Philip. It is evident that I'm on his (and yours) side. Mark, Santilli seems always one-way oriented, money. Read my last comment on Philip. It is evident that I’m on his (and yours) side.

]]> By: maurizio baiata http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-92 maurizio baiata Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:53:02 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-92 Hi Philip, I'm so pleased about your precious comment. I'd make the first autopsy footage available for everyone, for sure, my friend! I really appreciate that you are sharing with us the info on the work you've done just to ascertain the truth, as Mark and few others kept doing until now. This makes a difference with all the people that on the frenzy of the big wave of 1995 jumped on the bandwagon and then after they shouted their stuff, just disappeared. Nice. Serious researchers are like you. So we are left with you're total confidence on Melaris's version. I have your article in front of me, Philip and as promised, I'll try to publish it asap in our magazine. Meantime, I'll go after Qwerty Films. Hi Philip, I’m so pleased about your precious comment. I’d make the first autopsy footage available for everyone, for sure, my friend! I really appreciate that you are sharing with us the info on the work you’ve done just to ascertain the truth, as Mark and few others kept doing until now. This makes a difference with all the people that on the frenzy of the big wave of 1995 jumped on the bandwagon and then after they shouted their stuff, just disappeared. Nice. Serious researchers are like you. So we are left with you’re total confidence on Melaris’s version. I have your article in front of me, Philip and as promised, I’ll try to publish it asap in our magazine. Meantime, I’ll go after Qwerty Films.

]]> By: Mark Center http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Mark Center Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:29:49 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-91 In the end, if you choose to not believe Mr. Mantle’s findings, go get Santilli to pony up some physical evidence. Any physical evidence. Good luck with that. In the end, if you choose to not believe Mr. Mantle’s findings, go get Santilli to pony up some physical evidence. Any physical evidence. Good luck with that.

]]> By: philip Mantle http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-89 philip Mantle Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:14:20 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-89 Firstly I do not have the first AA film footage to make available to anyone. If I had it I'd gladly make it available but I don't. Secondly, It was a senior executive at Qwerty Films that told me that they had made the black & white sequenc e at the end of the Ant & Dec movie. They also told me that UK sculptor John Humphries made the dummies for them and Santilli long before Santilli changed his story. Humphries full involvement was told to US TV producer Bob Kiviat.You don't have to take my word for it as you are free to ask them yourself. I have had the pleasure of being in the home of Spyros Melaris and seeing more than enough of his evidence to leave me in no doubt that he is the man that led the team that faked it. Added to this, do not forget I have interviewec Keith Bateman and one of his employees. They were responsiible for making the tent footage. Keith also told how, from that the whole AA film hoax began. This was also supported by one of his TV producers and 2 people independent of him. The late Georgina Bruni also interviewd a photographer with the nick-name of 'Angel' he also toild of how the film was faked. And last but not least Michael Hesemann reluctantly reported to us just 2 years ago that he was given the full details of Spyros Melris's involvement way back in l996 but he told no one. He even telephoned Spyros at the time. When you add all of the pieces together it spells out just one thing 'FRAUD'. Firstly I do not have the first AA film footage to make available to anyone. If I had it I’d gladly make it available but I don’t. Secondly, It was a senior executive at Qwerty Films that told me that they had made the black & white sequenc e at the end of the Ant & Dec movie. They also told me that UK sculptor John Humphries made the dummies for them and Santilli long before Santilli changed his story. Humphries full involvement was told to US TV producer Bob Kiviat.You don’t have to take my word for it as you are free to ask them yourself. I have had the pleasure of being in the home of Spyros Melaris and seeing more than enough of his evidence to leave me in no doubt that he is the man that led the team that faked it. Added to this, do not forget I have interviewec Keith Bateman and one of his employees. They were responsiible for making the tent footage. Keith also told how, from that the whole AA film hoax began. This was also supported by one of his TV producers and 2 people independent of him. The late Georgina Bruni also interviewd a photographer with the nick-name of ‘Angel’ he also toild of how the film was faked. And last but not least Michael Hesemann reluctantly reported to us just 2 years ago that he was given the full details of Spyros Melris’s involvement way back in l996 but he told no one. He even telephoned Spyros at the time. When you add all of the pieces together it spells out just one thing ‘FRAUD’.

]]> By: maurizio baiata http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-81 maurizio baiata Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:48:02 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-81 Mark, I basically agree with you, in principle, if we observe the entire ordeal, and to say the least, we can get really frustrated and angry at Santilli as you do. You're mentioning some reasons, very important indeed, for it, I can mention more. Santilli's autopsy films are all over the internet and I do not agree that the discussion can not go further because in doing it we nourish his finances whatsoever. My two cents, if that fraud was perpetrated even with the 18 seconds that I want to have clarified, well he is a genius, because that sequence of images -as it is- is very difficult and expensive to create. For me, either is an excellent reconstruction or is the real deal. Again, some of us became friends over such a disgraceful subject as the AA, and I think I really like this. Because now, with Open Minds I have the chance to openly discuss any topic with so many good friends, old and new. And then we will see. Maurizio Mark,
I basically agree with you, in principle, if we observe the entire ordeal, and to say the least, we can get really frustrated and angry at Santilli as you do. You’re mentioning some reasons, very important indeed, for it, I can mention more. Santilli’s autopsy films are all over the internet and I do not agree that the discussion can not go further because in doing it we nourish his finances whatsoever. My two cents, if that fraud was perpetrated even with the 18 seconds that I want to have clarified, well he is a genius, because that sequence of images -as it is- is very difficult and expensive to create. For me, either is an excellent reconstruction or is the real deal. Again, some of us became friends over such a disgraceful subject as the AA, and I think I really like this. Because now, with Open Minds I have the chance to openly discuss any topic with so many good friends, old and new. And then we will see.
Maurizio

]]> By: Mark Center http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-78 Mark Center Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:12:51 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-78 I understand what you’re asking for from the film company and, in a perfect world I would agree. However, you’re holding that film company up to a MUCH higher level of responsibility than you’re holding Santilli up to. Santilli has had over 15 years to fully and completely make his case, he hasn’t and it seems that he can’t... He can’t do anything more than change his story around to facilitate more attempts at making money off his unfinished tale... Let’s remember that Santilli made the claim that Kodak dated his “film” and not his “leader” of unknown origin. This never happened, and film was never dated. And in fact, “qualified” and “verified” film has never, ever been held in the hands of anyone but Santilli... So what are we to believe friend? Santilli’s trend of lies or a film company with seemingly no reason to support Santilli’s lies? By you submitting that those 18 seconds of video "may" be from the Santilli "video", and in fact, it would be the longest section of video ever released of non-Santilli “faked” video, you're playing into Santilli's hands in keeping his fraud current and open for further opportunities to rip off the consumer. I understand what you’re asking for from the film company and, in a perfect world I would agree. However, you’re holding that film company up to a MUCH higher level of responsibility than you’re holding Santilli up to. Santilli has had over 15 years to fully and completely make his case, he hasn’t and it seems that he can’t…

He can’t do anything more than change his story around to facilitate more attempts at making money off his unfinished tale…

Let’s remember that Santilli made the claim that Kodak dated his “film” and not his “leader” of unknown origin. This never happened, and film was never dated. And in fact, “qualified” and “verified” film has never, ever been held in the hands of anyone but Santilli…

So what are we to believe friend? Santilli’s trend of lies or a film company with seemingly no reason to support Santilli’s lies?

By you submitting that those 18 seconds of video “may” be from the Santilli “video”, and in fact, it would be the longest section of video ever released of non-Santilli “faked” video, you’re playing into Santilli’s hands in keeping his fraud current and open for further opportunities to rip off the consumer.

]]> By: maurizio baiata http://www.openminds.tv/alien-autopsy-part-ii-an-alien-body-talks/comment-page-1/#comment-75 maurizio baiata Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:48:01 +0000 http://www.openminds.tv/?p=922#comment-75 Hi Mark, thanks for you comments. Qwerty Films is the production company allegedly involved in the creation of those startling 18 seconds. I know Philip Mantle had a phone conversation with one of their reps, who said that they have done it. Good. Usually, in journalism we need a little more info, such as when, who, what et cetera, correct? So, if they can prove it in showing the names of the crew personnel, the actors, locations, dates and essentially providing publicly a working copy of the original film shots (probably in 16 mm.), I will be satisfied, and you too, I suppose. If they can not provide this info, I'd assume that Santilli knows a lot about this film sequence, and that he could have in his hands as in original 16 mm. film. I deeply respect Philip's work and opinions, so I fully rely on him when he says that Melaris is the master minder. However, I bet that a spin in the wind between Santilli and Melaris will never occur, and that we have to see by our own eyes Mr. Melaris factual evidence, until now with no avail. Maurizio Baiata Hi Mark, thanks for you comments. Qwerty Films is the production company allegedly involved in the creation of those startling 18 seconds. I know Philip Mantle had a phone conversation with one of their reps, who said that they have done it. Good. Usually, in journalism we need a little more info, such as when, who, what et cetera, correct? So, if they can prove it in showing the names of the crew personnel, the actors, locations, dates and essentially providing publicly a working copy of the original film shots (probably in 16 mm.), I will be satisfied, and you too, I suppose. If they can not provide this info, I’d assume that Santilli knows a lot about this film sequence, and that he could have in his hands as in original 16 mm. film.
I deeply respect Philip’s work and opinions, so I fully rely on him when he says that Melaris is the master minder. However, I bet that a spin in the wind between Santilli and Melaris will never occur, and that we have to see by our own eyes Mr. Melaris factual evidence, until now with no avail.
Maurizio Baiata

]]>